Oxalates are chemical compounds found in many plant-based foods. While they are toxic antinutrients, most people don’t realize how problematic they can be.
I was wrong.
I thought I was eating a very healthy diet. I was eating plenty of fresh fruits and vegetables, lots of nuts and seeds, and yet, each day I was drifting further and further into a brain fog that I couldn’t escape from.
When it was time to work on the blog, I would sit down at the computer having no idea what to write. Sometimes I did but just felt too fatigued to do so. On a good day, I was able to make and film a new recipe, but by the time I wanted to share it, I had no idea how to put it together and publish it, despite years of experience doing so without issues.
As my diet got “healthier”, I felt worse. I felt like the hours in the day were shrinking and I just couldn’t get anything done. Ever.
My carnivore diet experiment
On a whim, one day, I decided to try the carnivore diet. It seemed a bit crazy to me, but I had seen several good testimonies on YouTube and figured, “Why not?” I wasn’t feeling well and was getting desperate.
On September 28, 2022, rather than have my usual breakfast of matcha in coconut or almond milk, filled with chia seeds for satiety, I chose to eat eggs, bacon, and meat! Rather than snack on celery and almond butter, I chose pemican or pork rinds. Dinner was no longer a plate full of veggies or leafy greens, sometimes accompanied by a bit of fish. Instead, I chose a big, fatty, juicy steak.
After a day or two, I already felt amazing. My energy started to rise, and I didn’t feel quite as foggy. My skin was clearing up; not only the eczema on my right ankle but also the acne on my face. I was sleeping better and had a better attitude in general. My nails were getting stronger, and I was looking and feeling healthier than ever.
Until…things started to take a turn for the worse…
Oxalate dumping
About two weeks later I experienced something that I later found to be oxalate dumping symptoms.
Urinary tract infection symptoms
One evening, I started getting familiar symptoms of a urinary tract infection coming on. For a while in the past, I was getting them almost monthly. I ran for the d-mannose, and the symptoms mostly went away, but I continued to have cloudy urine, on and off, for several weeks.
Hives/rashes
A month into my experiment, I broke out into very itchy hives. As much as I generally try to avoid medications, it got so bad that I had to turn to an antihistamine and corticosteroid cream for several days. The rash coincidentally started two days after my husband had a reaction to a bad mussel from a batch we ate at a restaurant. Everyone just assumed I was reacting to bad seafood, but I wasn’t so sure. (I hadn’t had any sort of digestive symptoms and the timing seemed off.)
While they cleared to a tolerable level within about a week, I continued with a rash all over my arms and back for several weeks longer. I also got cycles of cloudy urine, an occasional pimple, and a bump or two of eczema all at the same time. I also had red, irritated skin on my face and red, dry eyes.
Oxalate dumping symptoms
Being new to the carnivore diet, I was doing a lot of investigation on the topic. I found that many new carnivores were experiencing what they called oxalate dumping.
Oxalate dumping occurs when a person stops consuming high-oxalate foods after having consumed them over a long period of time. As the concentration of oxalates in the body goes down, the body works to rid itself of the oxalates that have built up and been stored in the body.
Oxalate dumping happens to a lot of people who begin the carnivore diet because animal foods are generally extremely low in oxalates. (The exception is bone broth and gelatin because oxalates can accumulate in animals’ connective tissues.) When one makes a drastic change from a high oxalate diet to a very low one, it can bring on drastic symptoms.
Some oxalate dumping symptoms include hives, rashes, acne, cloudy urine, and joint pain. Sound familiar?
What are oxalates?
Oxalates are a type of naturally occurring chemical found especially in many plant-based foods. They help plants defend themselves against insects and other predators (like us). When one eats too many oxalates at once, they can build up and cause numerous adverse health effects.
What problems do they cause?
High oxalate levels can cause a wide range of symptoms and health problems that range from mild to severe. They can cause inflammation, joint pain (arthritis, carpal tunnel syndrome), skin irritation (eczema and acne), kidney stones, and other urinary tract problems like UTIs. They can also lead to digestive issues, brain fog, and fatigue.
Oxalates are chelators that can prevent your body from properly absorbing minerals, such as calcium. They may even leech calcium from your bones which weakens your bones. The oxalate binds with calcium to form calcium oxalate crystals that can accumulate in joints causing arthritic-like symptoms of oxalate “gout”.
Why is excess oxalate stored in the body?
It seems strange that the body would want to store toxic substances like oxalates within the body. The body can only eliminate a certain amount at once, though, without causing serious damage to organs like the kidneys. If one eats a low-oxalate diet, the oxalates are eliminated immediately after their intake, mostly through urine. On the other hand, if one eats a high-oxalate diet, the body stores the extra until it is able to process and eliminate them.
If you continue a high intake of oxalates, your body will continue to store the excess. You may start to notice more and more symptoms. Most people don’t attribute those symptoms to their high-oxalate diet, though, thinking they are eating in a healthy way.
In fact, they, like me, may not realize those oxalates were a problem until they make a switch to a low-oxalate diet. As your body rids itself of excess oxalates through the process of oxalate dumping, symptoms can worsen before they improve.
High oxalate foods
After some more research, I discovered that my diet of matcha and chia seeds with almond milk, celery dipped in almond butter, and spinach salads with other veggies was extremely high in oxalates.
Some of the most problematic foods are the following:
Nuts and seeds: Almonds, walnuts, cashews, peanuts and peanut butter, pecans, sesame seeds
Greens, veggies, and tubers: Spinach, swiss chard, beets, and beet greens, sweet potatoes, rhubarb, celery, carrots, tomatoes (especially tomato sauce and tomato paste), parsnips, okra, artichokes, snap peas
Legumes: Soybeans, beans
Whole grains and pseudo grains: Wheat bran and wheat germ, quinoa, grits, barley, tapioca flour
Fruits: Kiwi, figs, berries (in high doses), especially blackberries and raspberries, apricots, tangerines, citrus peels like lemon peel and lime peel, prunes
Spices: Black pepper, turmeric, parsley, cumin, cinnamon
High-oxalate “superfoods”
To make matters worse, many high-oxalate foods are being promoted to “superfood” status. Some of the most notorious are spinach and beet greens, but even dark chocolate and cocoa, tea (black tea and green tea), chia seeds, and some of the “healthy” spices like turmeric and black pepper are quite high.
People trying to eat a healthier diet may actually turn to a very high oxalate one that causes them even more damage. This topic is covered in detail in the book, Toxic Superfoods by Sally K. Norton. I highly recommend reading the book if you believe you are suffering from oxalate overload.
Ironically, the more processed grains like white bread and white rice are lower in oxalates than the “healthier” full-bran or brown rice. Those avoiding grains or gluten may turn to high-oxalate alternatives like almond flour or buckwheat flour.
Nut and seed “milks” like almond milk, especially homemade, are also extremely high. Soy milk is also extremely high. Sadly, by trying to avoid the inflammation from dairy, many think they are choosing a healthier alternative but they may actually be making their health worse.
Problematic supplements
Too much of a good thing can also be very problematic.
During the pandemic, I worsened my problem by supplementing with high doses of vitamin C. While vitamin C is an essential nutrient, it is also a precursor to oxalate formation. Taking high doses of vitamin C may exacerbate oxalate problems or even be enough to cause them.
I was also taking collagen, another precursor. While I still believe that making and consuming homemade bone broth is a very healthy addition to your diet, taking an excessive amount of concentrated collagen or gelatin can lead to oxalate issues.
Can you reduce oxalates by cooking or soaking them?
While you can slightly reduce the oxalates in some foods by boiling them for a long period of time and tossing the cooking water, it can only help so much.
Even if you could reduce them in a high-oxalate food by as much as 50%, it would still continue to have too many oxalates for most people with issues. In some cases, it may even make those oxalates more bioavailable and easier to absorb.
Soaking and sprouting haven’t been shown to be very effective for reducing them either.
Who is most susceptible?
Another myth about oxalates is that only some people are sensitive to them. I’ve heard it said that those who don’t have kidney stones have nothing to worry about and can eat as many oxalates as they want. This modern ignoring of the oxalate problem, though, is just that: ignorance.
There are cases of people who have either died or ended up on kidney dialysis after an oxalate overload. While death, like the man who died after eating sorrel soup, isn’t common, many people have developed kidney issues after adding a green smoothie detox to their health regimen. Notably, Liam Hemsworth developed kidney stones after incorporating “healthy” spinach smoothies and almond milk into his diet.
That said, some people are more likely to have visible issues than others. We probably each have an individual tolerance level based on how quickly our body is able to eliminate them.
Oxalate absorption?
Those of us with a long history of antibiotic use are more likely sensitive to oxalates. One of the theories is that antibiotics kill a type of bacteria that may help with the elimination of oxalates.
There could be other reasons: antibiotic use can lead to small openings in the digestive tract called “leaky gut”. This could lead to an increase in oxalate absorption.
Other digestive issues, like gallbladder problems, or traumas to the digestive tract, like bariatric surgeries, may also lead to increased problems.
Those with autoimmune conditions, autism spectrum disorders, chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia, and other chronic illnesses may also be more sensitive. Leaky gut is also more common in people with these conditions, so their oxalate absorption may be higher.
Lastly, those with certain genetic mutations like MTHFR may have difficulty eliminating oxalates as well.
So what’s the solution?
If you’ve been experiencing any of the symptoms I mentioned earlier, consider reducing or eliminating high-oxalate foods from your diet.
You don’t have to switch to a carnivore diet like the one I’m currently on. In fact, it’s probably best not to make a drastic switch from a high oxalate diet to a very low one all at once. Doing so could lead to more serious dumping symptoms. I ended up with hives, but you could even end up with kidney stones or other kidney problems.
The best approach is to slowly reduce your oxalate intake by swapping the highest oxalate foods in your diet for nutrient-rich low-oxalate foods.
Low-oxalate foods include animal foods like meats, pasture-raised eggs, and wild-caught fish, and low-oxalate vegetables like cucumbers and romaine lettuce.
Lower oxalate alternatives
For those looking to reduce their oxalate intake, there are plenty of low-oxalate alternatives. While most of these foods are lower in oxalates, consuming some in large doses can add up.
Fruits: Apples, bananas, blueberries, cantaloupe, grapes, honeydew melon, oranges, papaya, pears, avocados, peaches, lemon juice and lemonade, orange juice, lime juice (avoid citrus peels), pineapples, cherries
Vegetables: Asparagus, broccoli, cauliflower, cucumber, lettuce (romaine), mushrooms, onions, turnips, rutabaga, cilantro, cabbage, endive, mustard greens, kale, escarole, Brussels sprouts, chives
Grains and starches: Basmati rice, fresh corn, coconut flour, cornstarch
Animal products: Beef, ham, chicken, liver, fish like sardines, dairy products like cow’s milk, cheese, yogurt, kefir, buttermilk
Nuts and seeds: (In small doses) lower oxalate options are sunflower seeds, pumpkin seeds, flaxseeds, macadamia nuts, and walnuts.
Supplementation
To help support the body during detox, consider supplementation with minerals that can help with oxalate elimination. Some examples are calcium citrate, magnesium citrate, and potassium citrate.
B vitamins, especially B6, are also helpful throughout the elimination process. As is sulfur, which can be found in MSM. For those who can’t tolerate MSM or magnesium supplements, adding MSM and/or Epsom salts to baths and foot soaks can be helpful.
Sally K. Norton provides more information about supplementation during oxalate detoxing in her very thorough, well-researched book, Toxic Superfoods. (Read my review of the book here.)
How long will oxalate detox take?
Don’t try to rush through!
Normally, the progressive accumulation and storage of oxalates occurs throughout many years. Similarly, its elimination is a process that takes time to reverse. It can take anywhere from several months to several years, depending on how bad the problem was, to begin with.
Removing high-oxalate foods from your diet is only one part of the equation. The other part is providing your body with the necessary nutrients to support oxalate elimination and detoxification. This means eating a nutrient-rich diet, supplementing with the right minerals, and providing your body with the rest it needs.
Sue khan
Hi,
can you tell me how long did your skin take to clear up.
Tracy Ariza, DDS
Hi Sue,
Well, to be honest, it cleared up almost immediately, but once the oxalate dumping started, I’d go through cycles of it being mostly clear to days where I’d get patches of bumps again. I’m almost a year and a half in and my skin is completely clear right now. That said, a couple of days ago, I did get two or three itchy bumps that cleared up right away. So, I suspect that I’m still dealing with oxalate dumping and when that happens, I see a few bumps on my skin and my urine also seems to change. (I don’t know how to describe it other than it looks “pixelated”) I also am usually tired around that time and hungrier than usual. It could all be a coincidence, but I don’t think so. I never get the huge patches of eczema or bumps, though, and I never get extreme itchiness that keeps me up at night anymore. I’m very happy!
Brennan Armacost
It sounds like you took up the Atkin’s Diet. Yet not once is that diet mentioned in your blog. Maybe you should read about it, because it seems incomplete. You are now avoiding oxalates, in exchange for a high intake of animal fats. I have some serious concerns about your new diet and your long-term health prospects. Do you know that garlic helps in your body releasing sulphur from its cells? It unlocks them. Sulphur will get trapped inside otherwise. I am surprised you are recommending to people sulphur to clear anything away. It in fact will lock things up tight inside you. And are you aware that the founder of the Atkin’s Diet died of a heart attack, due to high concentrations of animal fat in his diet? Knowing what I know, I would NOT do what you are doing. I think you have merely found a way to mask your symptoms and may come to grave harm if you don’t reduce the levels of animal fat in your diet. You make it sounds like a full endorsement here of this negative behavior! You’re a mother and a wife. If not for you, please do it for your family. Please ask your doctor about the dangers of animal fat and consuming sulphur, which is poisonous.
Tracy Ariza, DDS
Hi Brennan,
I appreciate your concern, but can assure you I have done a lot more investigation on the subject than my doctors ever have shown interest in doing. I’d suggest investigating a bit more about the myths of animal fats and heart disease.
Through testing, we can see improvements in our heart disease markers. My husband is a lean mass hyper responder, so his overall cholesterol has gone up, but all of the other risk factors are much improved. (He has lost weight, his blood pressure has come down, his triglycerides have gone down and his HDL have gone up. Overall lipoprtein ratios are much better.)
We have been diligently following all of the latest research on people who are lean mass hyper responders and the results so far are very promising. They are not finding the inflammation and buildup in the blood vessels of those following ketogenic diets that are very heavy inanimal fats- on the contrary. Many have found that when they make the switch, those that do tessting find their coronary calcium scans and other such tests actually improve.
The villifcation of animal facts was based on faulty science years ago and has continued because it is quite profitable. I once heard an economis say that if the statins market was brought down just in the US, that basically the world economy would crash. Whether or not that is true, I don’t know, but it makes you think.
Anne Clive
Hi there – I felt I had to comment that Robert Atkins died from falling and suffering fatal head injuries – where did you get the information that he died of a ) a heart attack and b) it was due to high concentrations of animal fat in his diet ?
Dawn
Thank you for posting this!!! I have recently heard of oxilate poisoning, but only in 5 top superfoods (almonds, dark chocolate, spinach, beet greens, and Swiss chard). My daughter and I are grain free because of severe gluten intolerance, and I became concerned. Another daughter is dairy free.
I’ve read and referred to your blog for several years now, really enjoying the research and information that goes into your writing each post, and now I’m even more impressed! Very nice to know the extent of foods that contain high levels of oxilates.
Thank you!!
I hope all goes well with you and your family 😊
Tracy Ariza, DDS
Hi Dawn,
Thank you so much!
I’m sorry I missed this before. I have to admit that even after writing this, I kept going through cycles of oxalate dumping! I’m just now feeling like things are really healing now and turning around for me. I’m also starting to lose the excess weight I put on. (I’ve heard that Sally Norton has said that it’s common for your body to retain weight while detoxing from oxalates to protect itself!)
I really appreciate your comment and wish you the best! Now that I feel better, I’m trying to catch up on the many comments and emails that I let accumulate while dealing with fatigue and brain fog!I’ll then be posting a lot more new stuff! 🙂