Dr. Bronner’s soap is a versatile, all purpose cleaner that is a great addition to any household. But let’s face it, it’s can be quite expensive. Learn how to make a multipurpose liquid Castile soap at home. It’s easy, frugal, and very rewarding.
If you’ve been following my blog for a while, you know by now that I love making soap.
Making bars of soap is a lot of fun, and you can experiment with all sorts of ingredients, colors, and other additives to customize your soap exactly as you like. If you’ve never made a bar soap before, take a look at my easy, beginner soap recipe, which shows you exactly how to start making bar soaps and also gives you ideas for customizing the soap to suit your needs. That beginner soap recipe is a modified Castile soap recipe, just like this one.
What is Castile soap?
I call this recipe a modified liquid castile soap recipe because it uses a variety of vegetable oils. Pure Castile soap normally refers to a soap made with only olive oil.
Over the years, the definition of “Castile soap” has been extended to include other soaps made with not only olive oil, but that also add in other vegetable oils. Other vegetable oils are added to change the properties of the soap, normally to give it more lather and make it more cleansing.
Soaps made with only olive oil are on the conditioning side, meaning that they are mild, and not stripping, when used on skin. On the other hand, they don’t form as much lather and aren’t considered highly cleansing soaps.
Coconut oil in soap makes a nice lather and is very cleansing, but it can be drying on the skin when used alone.
Combining a variety of oils allows you to add the beneficial properties of each oil in the soap, making a soap that can be ideal for a number of uses.
Why make your own liquid soap?
While it is fun to make bar soaps, I find it more rewarding to make liquid soaps at home.
Let’s face it, Dr. Bronner’s Liquid Castile soap is a very handy soap to have on hand, but it can be pretty pricey. By making your own liquid Castile soap at home, you can save yourself a lot of money. (And it’s actually pretty easy to do too!)
What’s in Dr. Bronner’s Liquid Castile Soap?
Despite the fact that they call it a “pure Castile soap,” it isn’t a soap made only with olive oil. In fact, coconut oil is the main ingredient of the Dr. Bronner’s soap that I tried to copycat (and of all the Dr. Bronner’s soaps that I can find here.)
I chose to try to make a soap similar to the Dr. Bronner’s 18-in-one Hemp Baby Unscented Pure Castile Soap. One of the reasons I chose that particular soap is that it is unscented, and it allows for me to see if my homemade liquid Castile soap has a similar natural scent. (I’ve noticed that my homemade liquid coconut oil soap and my homemade pure liquid Castile soap don’t have the same scent. Both have a mild natural soap scent, but my coconut oil soap smells a lot more like the Dr. Bronner’s soap than my soap made with olive oil.
Interestingly enough, I’m seeing that the version sold on Amazon in the US appears to be different from the bottle I bought at a local shop here in Spain.
Here in Spain palm kernel oil wasn’t listed at all, but in the US it is the oil that is used in the highest concentration after the coconut oil.
In the US, the soap has this ingredient list: Water, Organic Coconut Oil, Potassium Hydroxide, Organic Palm Kernel Oil, Organic Olive Oil, Organic Hemp Oil, Organic Jojoba Oil, Citric Acid, Tocopherol
You’ll notice that the main oil used is coconut oil, and that all of the other oils are used in a lesser quantity than even the lye itself. (In the case of liquid soaps, potassium hydroxide is the lye used.)
When I made my copycat liquid Castile soap, I didn’t use palm kernel oil because I was trying to copy the bottle of soap that I had at home. I had no idea that they made different formulations of their soap here in Europe.
I tried to make my recipe as similar to theirs as possible, so I used coconut oil as the base oil for my liquid Castile soap recipe, and used the other oils in descending order, using a smaller amount of those oils than the potassium hydroxide just like theirs.
The last two ingredients in Dr. Bronner’s soap are citric acid and tocopherol. Citric acid is likely used to neutralize the soap to keep it on the mild side. (You can read more about that in the section below about superfatting.)
Tocopherol is a form of vitamin E. It is often added to soaps to help extend the life of the soaps as it can help keep any excess oils from going rancid. In the case of liquid soaps that aren’t normally superfatted, it probably doesn’t help as much in this way, but it still may somehow help extend the shelf life somewhat. (Keep in mind that while the antioxidant properties of vitamin E can help extend an oil’s shelf life, Vitamin E is NOT a preservative, and won’t prevent bacterial or mold growth.) Still, vitamin E is a nice addition to any beauty product that will be used on face and body as it helps add moisture and can help soothe skin. You can most definitely add a few drops of vitamin E to your homemade liquid soap when you dilute it to help gain some of its positive benefits when using your liquid soap.
Differences between oils in liquid soap
When I first started making liquid Castile soap, I made the pure Castile soap with only olive oil as often as I made a liquid soap using coconut oil. I figured that for face and body use, the pure liquid Castile soap would be a lot better to use because soaps made with olive oil are milder and more conditioning than soaps made with coconut oil.
I wanted versatility, though, so I was making batches of both types of liquid soap to later combine them dependent on each particular use. The nice thing about liquid soaps is that you can combine the soaps after having made them. I used a mixture of different liquid soaps, using mostly olive oil soap for general bathing and mostly coconut oil for cleaning around the house.
Since then, though, I’ve found that I use my homemade liquid soap made with coconut oil much more than I use the liquid Castile soap made with only olive oil. I even occasionally use it 100% in the shower, and don’t find it to be drying on the skin. I think part of that may have to do with me using the glycerin method of liquid soap making. I use glycerin as part of the water component of the soap. I do it to help make an easier to use soap, but I think the extra glycerin (all soaps have glycerin in them that is made during the soap making process) likely helps prevent drying and makes a more conditioning soap.
Despite its popularity here on the blog (more than twice as many people check out the olive oil liquid Castile soap recipe over the coconut oil liquid soap), I have to admit that I rarely make that recipe anymore. I find myself often making double batches of the liquid coconut oil soap, though. I think people are so used to seeing “liquid Castile soap” for sale, and assume that the olive oil soap, being called “Castile soap,” will be closest to what they would normally buy.
That’s part of the reason that I decided to come up with another recipe that would be a nice, versatile, all-purpose cleanser like Dr. Bronner’s liquid Castile soap. This new recipe would combine coconut oil and olive oil, along with a couple of other oils, to make one batch of all-purpose liquid Castile soap. Some people had no desire to make two different batches of liquid soap, and I totally understand! Don’t get me wrong; either of the other recipes is pretty multi-purpose as well, but this one allows you to make just one batch and use it for pretty much anywhere you’d want to use liquid soap.
This soap compare vs. Dr. Bronner’s Unscented Baby Mild Liquid Castile soap
Scent comparison
While this soap had a similar scent, Dr. Bronner’s has a natural fragrance somewhere between this soap and that of my coconut oil liquid soap. I think my soap smells a bit more like hemp oil than Dr. Bronner’s version, which makes me think that I used higher concentrations of hemp and jojoba oils than Dr. Bronner’s does. (This, of course, is all guesswork on my part!)
Seeing as how hemp oil and jojoba oils are the more expensive oils in those recipe, that would make a lot of sense. To save even more money, you could definitely reduce those oils in this recipe, but you’d have to run the new formula through a lye calculator first to make sure that you use the right amount of potassium hydroxide. When formulating liquid soap recipes, I usually use the Summer Bee Meadow lye calculator, as I’ve often read that it’s the best calculator for liquid soap making. Not only does it take into account the water component in KOH vs. NaOH, but it also allows for calculating in glycerin and alcohol should you choose to use them.
Color comparison
My diluted soap is slightly lighter in color than my bottle of Dr. Bronner’s. Dr. Bronner’s soap is closer in color to my liquid soap paste. That likely means that their soap is a bit more concentrated than the soap I diluted to use as a hand soap. That makes sense when you consider that Dr. Bronner’s soap is marketed as being very concentrated, and most people dilute it further before using it. If I were to dilute my liquid soap paste with less water, I’d likely be able to make a liquid soap of the same color as theirs.
I would like to say that I’ve also had the bottle of Dr. Bronner’s soap for longer than my homemade liquid Castile soap. I’ve found that my liquid soap pastes tend to get slightly darker with time, so that could be another factor that affects the difference in color.
Use comparison
When using them, both soaps lather up nicely, and neither is drying on the skin. I don’t really notice any differences while using them.
Why use Glycerin (When Dr. Bronner’s doesn’t list it)?
Adding glycerin does add to the cost of making your own liquid Castile soap, but it does have several added benefits.
When I first started developing liquid soap recipes, I remember reading about people who replaced all of the water in the recipe with glycerin. The idea was that it makes the process more fool proof and speeds up the process of making a clear liquid soap.
I wanted to make the process of making liquid soap at home the easiest I could, so I chose to substitute part of the water component for glycerin. I’ve found that not only does it help move the process along quickly, converting the soap quickly into a liquid soap paste, but it also seems to make a very nice, mild liquid soap, even when only using coconut oil. When you take into consideration that liquid soaps aren’t normally superfatted, that’s saying a lot.
When making a homemade glycerin bar soap, I learned how glycerin can be a solvent of sorts that helps make a more transparent soap. My guess is that the addition of glycerin to my liquid soap helps to make it a bit more transparent even when I don’t use excess lye in the recipe.
I also think that the addition of glycerin helps make a liquid soap paste that easily dissolves in water. I’ve read horror stories from people who have a difficult time trying to dilute their soap paste in water. On the other hand, I’ve always easily dissolved mine just by adding some water to it and leaving it alone for a few hours.
What is superfatting?
Superfatting is the process of adding more oils to a soap than what are needed to react with all of the lye used. The idea is that not only will all of the lye be safely converted into soap, but that leftover oils also remain in the soap to help leave the skin conditioned and soft.
While most bar soaps are superfatted, especially those meant for face and body, leftover oils in a liquid soap can cause cloudiness. Because most people are aiming to make a transparent liquid soap like the ones sold in stores, liquid soaps aren’t normally superfatted. In fact, they are normally made with a lye excess and later “neutralized” to bring down the pH from the unreacted lye. You can read more about how to check the pH of soap and how to neutralize liquid soaps here. (The term neutralizing is a bit misleading as it will only bring the pH down slightly to a non-irritating range. You won’t be bringing the soap to a neutral pH. It will still be alkaline.)
You’ll notice that Dr. Bronner’s liquid soap lists citric acid as one of the ingredients. My best guess is that they are using the citric acid to help neutralize their soap so that the pH isn’t too high and doesn’t irritate your skin, all while allowing for a nice, clear, transparent soap.
To simplify things, I’ve calculated all of my liquid soap recipes to be 0% superfatted. Basically that means that if the recipe is followed precisely, you shouldn’t have any unreacted oil or any unreacted lye left.That said, it’s very possible that even if you follow the recipe precisely with a well calibrated scale, that you may have the tiniest bit of one or the other leftover, but it shouldn’t be enough to throw things far enough in either direction to make a big difference. If the soap is slightly cloudy, you may have some unreacted oils, but that will also make for a more conditioning soap. I personally don’t have a problem with cloudy liquid soap, but if it bothers you, you can try making with a lye excess and neutralize the soap later. Or you could go the easy route and use an opaque soap dispenser. (There are some beautiful stainless steel and ceramic ones available.) 😉
If you do end up with some unreacted lye, as long as it isn’t enough to bring the pH high enough so that it irritates the skin, it shouldn’t be a problem. If you find the soap irritating to your skin, though, you can check the pH and try neutralizing the soap. Up until now, I’ve never had an issue with any of my homemade liquid soaps using the recipes I’ve shared with you.
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Dr. Bronner’s Unscented Baby-Mild Copycat (Updated Recipe)
When I originally posted this recipe, I used larger quantities of the hemp and jojoba oils. Not only does this make the recipe more expensive to make, but I also found that it made for a cloudier soap.
I had a reader comment to me that she had made all of my liquid soap recipes, and that while the others were crystal clear, this one stayed cloudy for her. Mine was cloudy at first, but then an opaque layer settled out and fell to the bottom of the jar. Neither of us found it to affect the quality of the soap, but I didn’t really find it to improve the soap either. I decided to give you an updated version of the soap, with reduced quantities of the more expensive oils. I’ve found this updated version to much clearer, and I think it behaves similarly to the soap I bought in the store.
For those who want a soap without the hemp and jojoba oils, try the last recipe on this page. I’m guessing it’s perfectly clear and cheaper to make. I’m not convinced that the hemp and jojoba oils are providing any benefit in this soap anyway. (They are likely added for label appeal.)
Dr. Bronner’s Unscented Baby-Mild Copycat (Updated)
Materials
- 28 oz. coconut oil
- 8 oz olive oil
- 1 oz hemp oil
- .5 oz jojoba oil
- 9.4 oz KOH
- 20.2 oz distilled water
- 8 oz glycerin
Instructions
- Weigh out all of the oils and add them to a slow cooker on low heat.
- Weigh out and mix together the distilled water and glycerin.
- Dissolve the Potassium hydroxide (KOH) in the distilled water and glycerin mixture in a well ventilated area. Add the KOH to the water and not the other way around. Use gloves and safety goggles when working with potassium hydroxide. the mixture will heat up and get hot. Avoid inhaling the fumes.
- Add the potassium hydroxide solution to the oils in the slow cooker and begin to slowly mix them together.
- Use an immersion blender to blend the oils and potassium hydroxide solution together. At first it will get opaque and thicken slightly, then it will look curdled. Keep blending!
- Continue blending until it gets more opaque and begins to get too thick to blend with the immersion blender. I stopped blending as soon as I felt too much resistance so as not to burn out the blender, and my soap paste turned more solid almost immediately after I stopped.
- Continue to heat the paste, stirring as best you can with a spatula or spoon every half an hour or so. You want to continue to cook the soap paste until it becomes translucent. A good way to check what your final soap should look like is to dissolve a small amount in some distilled water and see if it dissolves clear. If not, continue to process a little longer. You’ll probably end up cooking the paste for a few hours.
- Once processed, you can store the soap paste in glass jars in a cool, dark place until you are ready to dilute it to make your liquid Castile soap.
- Depending upon how concentrated you want your soap, dissolve the soap paste in distilled water. I usually use somewhere between 2-4 parts water for every 1 part of soap paste. I dissolve small amounts at a time and leave the rest as a soap paste until I need to use it. The soap paste will keep for longer than diluted liquid soap.
- You can now add in any essential oils that you want to use to add a fragrance to your soap, or you can keep in unscented. You can also add in a few drops of tocopherol (vitamin E) at this time.
- Enjoy using your homemade liquid Castile soap.
Notes
- This recipe makes 4-4.5 lbs. of soap paste which can be diluted to 10-20 lbs. of liquid soap, or 1-2 gallons, depending on your dilution rate.
- Keep in mind that liquid soap is not as thick as commercial gels and surfactants. You’ll find that this soap, like Dr. Bronner’s, doesn’t need to look thick to be a concentrated, effective cleanser.
- Find more information about diluting your liquid soap paste here.
- Read more about checking the pH and neutralizing liquid soap here.
Dr. Bronner’s Copycat soap recipe (Original version)
This was my original recipe for this post
Version 1: Dr. Bronner’s Copycat
Ingredients
- 25 oz. coconut oil
- 8 oz olive oil
- 5 oz hemp oil
- 3 oz jojoba oil
- 9.68 oz KOH
- 21.05 oz distilled water
- 8 oz glycerin
Instructions
- Weigh out all of the oils and add them to a slow cooker on low heat.
- Weigh out and mix together the distilled water and glycerin.
- Dissolve the Potassium hydroxide (KOH) in the distilled water and glycerin mixture in a well ventilated area. Add the KOH to the water and not the other way around. Use gloves and safety goggles when working with potassium hydroxide. the mixture will heat up and get hot. Avoid inhaling the fumes.
- Add the potassium hydroxide solution to the oils in the slow cooker and begin to slowly mix them together.
- Use an immersion blender to blend the oils and potassium hydroxide solution together. At first it will get opaque and thicken slightly, then it will look curdled. Keep blending!
- Continue blending until it gets more opaque and begins to get too thick to blend with the immersion blender. I stopped blending as soon as I felt too much resistance so as not to burn out the blender, and my soap paste turned more solid almost immediately after I stopped.
- Continue to heat the paste, stirring as best you can with a spatula or spoon every half an hour or so. You want to continue to cook the soap paste until it becomes translucent. A good way to check what your final soap should look like is to dissolve a small amount in some distilled water and see if it dissolves clear. If not, continue to process a little longer. You’ll probably end up cooking the paste for a few hours.
- Once processed, you can store the soap paste in glass jars in a cool, dark place until you are ready to dilute it to make your liquid Castile soap.
- Depending upon how concentrated you want your soap, dissolve the soap paste in distilled water. I usually use somewhere between 2-4 parts water for every 1 part of soap paste. I dissolve small amounts at a time and leave the rest as a soap paste until I need to use it. The soap paste will keep for longer than diluted liquid soap.
- You can now add in any essential oils that you want to use to add a fragrance to your soap, or you can keep in unscented. You can also add in a few drops of tocopherol (vitamin E) at this time.
- Enjoy using your homemade liquid Castile soap.
Notes
- This recipe makes 4-4.5 lbs. of soap paste which can be diluted to 10-20 lbs. of liquid soap, or 1-2 gallons, depending on your dilution rate.
- Keep in mind that liquid soap is not as thick as commercial gels and surfactants. You’ll find that this soap, like Dr. Bronner’s, doesn’t need to look thick to be a concentrated, effective cleanser.
- Find more information about diluting your liquid soap paste here.
- Read more about checking the pH and neutralizing liquid soap here.
Don’t want to use hemp and jojoba oils at all?…
Multipurpose Liquid Castile Soap (Coconut + Olive Oil)
Some people have been asking me for a soap without hemp and jojoba, so I decided to calculate it out for you. I haven’t personally tried this recipe myself yet, but I imagine it would make a wonderful soap.
Multipurpose Liquid Castile Soap
Ingredients
Instructions
- Weigh out all of the oils and add them to a slow cooker on low heat.
- Weigh out and mix together the distilled water and glycerin.
- Dissolve the Potassium hydroxide (KOH) in the distilled water and glycerin mixture in a well ventilated area. Add the KOH to the water and not the other way around. Use gloves and safety goggles when working with potassium hydroxide. the mixture will heat up and get hot. Avoid inhaling the fumes.
- Add the potassium hydroxide solution to the oils in the slow cooker and begin to slowly mix them together.
- Use an immersion blender to blend the oils and potassium hydroxide solution together. At first it will get opaque and thicken slightly, then it will look curdled. Keep blending!
- Continue blending until it gets more opaque and begins to get too thick to blend with the immersion blender. I stopped blending as soon as I felt too much resistance so as not to burn out the blender, and my soap paste turned more solid almost immediately after I stopped.
- Continue to heat the paste, stirring as best you can with a spatula or spoon every half an hour or so. You want to continue to cook the soap paste until it becomes translucent. A good way to check what your final soap should look like is to dissolve a small amount in some distilled water and see if it dissolves clear. If not, continue to process a little longer. You’ll probably end up cooking the paste for a few hours.
- Once processed, you can store the soap paste in glass jars in a cool, dark place until you are ready to dilute it to make your liquid Castile soap.
- Depending upon how concentrated you want your soap, dissolve the soap paste in distilled water. I usually use somewhere between 2-4 parts water for every 1 part of soap paste. I dissolve small amounts at a time and leave the rest as a soap paste until I need to use it. The soap paste will keep for longer than diluted liquid soap.
- You can now add in any essential oils that you want to use to add a fragrance to your soap, or you can keep in unscented. You can also add in a few drops of tocopherol (vitamin E) at this time.
- Enjoy using your homemade liquid Castile soap.
Notes
- This recipe makes around 5.5 lbs. of soap paste which can be diluted to 12-25 lbs. of liquid soap, or around 2 gallons, depending on your dilution rate.
- Keep in mind that liquid soap is not as thick as commercial gels and surfactants. You’ll find that this soap, like Dr. Bronner’s, doesn’t need to look thick to be a concentrated, effective cleanser.
- Find more information about diluting your liquid soap paste here.
- Read more about checking the pH and neutralizing liquid soap here.
Aaron
Do you have any recommendations to learn about using glycerin in liquid soap recipes? I’m looking to develop my own recipe and started with your Multipurpose Liquid Castile Soap. I put these ingredients into the soapcalc calculator to get a base. It came back with a 5.5 superfat, so I reduced my recipe to 3.5 and it is a little drying. Is there something with using glycerin that upsets the balance?
Tracy Ariza, DDS
Hi Aaron,
No the glycerin shouldn’t upset the balance. I use it to move the process along more quickly and to help the soap paste be easier to dissolve in water. It’s just used in place of some of the water. I usually use the SBMcrafters advanced lye calculator for my liquid soap recipes and don’t superfat them, so it’s interesting that it came back as a 5.5 superfat on soapcalc. (I talk more about my method in my post about using a lye calculator.)
Unfortunately, the SBMcrafters one seems to be having issues lately. I’m not sure if and when they’ll fix it. If they don’t, I’ll have to compare and look for a new one for my liquid soap recipes. (When I chose it, I had read it was the most accurate for liquid soaps, but that may have changed.)
Aaron
Thanks for the response. This page has been the best resource for liquid soap I have found and will check out your calc tutor and see what I can come up with.
Tracy Ariza, DDS
Thanks, Aaron!
I’d love to hear how it goes!
Elizabeth
Tracy
I want toMake a face cleanser with Coconut oil , jojoba oil and olive oil
Can you suggest a recipe ?
Elizabeth
Tracy Ariza, DDS
An oil cleanser or a soap using those oils? This one has a version with those 3 oils.
Michele
I made some today and had a big surprise: I turned my immersion blender to “high” and it foamed over the top of the slow cooker (actually a Mealthy Multipot, which is like an Instant Pot but less expensive). It made a HUGE mess. I moved all I could after that to a stockpot on low on the stove and am now cleaning the multipot, which I will have to replace for my housemate as the lye in the soap peeled off some of the “silver” in the decorative section around the buttons.
But here is my question: Why did this happen? Is it really just because I turned the immersion blender to “high”?
Tracy Ariza, DDS
Hi Michele,
I’m sorry to hear you had that issue.
If you’re talking about at the beginning, when the mixture is very liquid, then, yes, it could be the speed and angle and which you started the immersion blender. (Some are quite potent so if you start at high from the beginning and have the blender angled at all, you can end up propelling the liquid up and out of your container.)
It’s a good idea to practice with your particular immersion blender and get used to the settings and how you have to hold it to prevent that from happening. You can practice with water in the same container you plan to use. Perhaps, try starting it on low and then slowly progressing up in speed (without turning off) if you are having issues starting to high with your particular blender.
Rhyah
Hi! I’m brand new to soap making and wondering if I can 1/2 or 1/4 this recipe so I can start with a smaller batch for my first try. Is it as simple as dividing the ingredients? Looking forward to trying it!
Tracy Ariza, DDS
Hi Rhyah,
Yes, of course! That’s fine. You can divide them- as long as you divide all ingredients by the same amount.
If you look at the servings section of the recipe card, it should allow you to toggle the quantities up or down to calculate the changes for you!
geno
Hi thanks for the recipe, I ran the recipe through a calculator, soapee one particularly. And I have a question. The total ammount of water in the recipe that comes out the way you place it is the same as yours. So you add extra by adding the glycerin? I have been wanting to try to add glycerin in my recipes but dont seem to know how to do this. In the calcutator I get total water 20.2oz but then you added extra 8oz of glycerin. I thought that from your 20.2oz you would substitute a part for glycerin and a part for water?
Thanks I hope my question is understood.
Geno
Tracy Ariza, DDS
Hi Geno,
For liquid soaps, I use the SBM advanced lye calculator because I’ve always heard it’s the most accurate for liquid soaps. It also allows for the addition of glycerin to your calculations. I explain my methodology better in my post about how to use a lye calculator.
Holly D
On the Ounces recipe, you put ‘by weight’ . Is that an error, is the ounces by weight or volume? Thank you
Tracy Ariza, DDS
Hi Holly,
No, that’s correct. They are weight ounces NOT liquid ounces. You can also convert it to grams in the recipe card.
All of the soap recipes are done by weight.
Elny
Thank you for sharing this recipe. I wonder how to make this soap a bit thicker?
Tracy Ariza, DDS
Hi Elny,
I really need to try out a few things before making a good suggestion. I had read that you could thicken liquid soap with salt, but I tried it and didn’t have success with it. (On the other hand, I was able to thicken my homemade laundry detergent with salt.)
some people thicken it with gums like [eafl id="27048" name="xanthan gum" text="xanthan gum"], but I’ve never tried that with soap. (I do use it for thickening my homemade shampoo, though, so I’m sure it would probably work.)
Anita
Hi Tracy,
Do you always keep your crockpot on low heat throughout the process? After about 6 hours of it on low, it still was not clear when I would dissolve into water. Would it clear up more if it was on medium heat? I don’t mind it though. The soap came out great and we love it in our foam dispenser. We also only put 2 drops of fragrance oil in the dispenser, when I do cold process soap, I feel like I put a ton! Thank you again for the recipe!
Tracy Ariza, DDS
Hi Anita,
Yes, I cooked on low the whole time, but it could depend on your crockpot.
If you used the recipe with jojoba oil, it has unsaponifiables that may cause cloudiness. It could also depend on the water you are using.
I have more information in my newer post on troubleshooting liquid soaps.
And, yes, you’re right about needing less fragrance in liquid soap. I’ve found the same thing. It’s great! 🙂
Nat
Tracey,
Can I ask if you have tried heating glycerine and lye on stove and making it simmer and stirring until completely dissolved? I believe this is how chemists do it? I was thinking if I used this method it might be faster to saponify?
Oh, with the bottom recipe, I believe if you add EDTA it may thicken it? I haven’t tried this yet.
However, I have found a way to thicken it really well that leaves it transparent but creates a better viscosity. I am very happy with the results. What I did was add this amazing product called Hydroxyethel Cellulose (HEC). I mixed the HEC at room temperature with some glycerine and a little bit of distilled water (cause I’m positive that I never get all the glycerine out of the cup) and then added this solution to the already dissolved soap paste. I read that it was important to add the hec at room temperature because it starts to gel quicker by heat and Ph of the liquid. If it is added to warm or hot liquid or as it heats up, it will start to gel very quickly and not give you enough time to get it fully incorporated into your soap. The higher the Ph of the liquid, the faster the gelling process will be too. I really had to whisk it well to incorporate the HEC. I think I did it for about ten minutes over heat (used a water bath that was on simmer). Oh, if you haven’t tried it, and you can get your hands on some, do it. It worked really well with the bottom recipe.
One more annoying question for you (you might hate me because of the questions) but have you superfatted your LS in dilution stage? I am assuming though if I did this I’d have to add an antioxidant? I am assuming also that I’d need to add a preservative?
Tracy Ariza, DDS
Hi Nat,
Sorry for the late reply. I meant to do more investigation and forgot to get back to you.
1) No, I’ve never heated glycerin with lye. I usually try to keep heat away from lye as it already heats up when mixed into a solution. I would have assumed that glycerin would burn with lye (like milks can), but maybe not.
2)I’m not sure about EDTA as a thickener. I’ve read it can help prolong the shelf life, etc., but didn’t know about thickening. I think I actually bought some at one time, thinking it was something else during one of my experimental phases- and I never did anything with it. So, maybe I can try it out.
3) Interesting about the HEC. I bought several gelling agents when working on the post about how to make a hand sanitizer, so I could test out one of the ones I bought.
4) No, the questions don’t annoy me. 😊 I do get behind on answering them sometimes, though, if I get a lot of them and I’m trying to get some posts out (or translate or whatever). I’ve never added oils when diluting. Adding oils shouldn’t affect the pH, so I don’t think it would affect the needing of a preservative. An antioxidant might help extend the shelf life of any soap (0.5% of recipes by weight seems to be the sweet spot for adding something like vitamin E.) I don’t think I’ve ever bothered with soap, though, as it always seems to keep forever.
I think the main issue with adding oils to the soap is that the soap would get cloudy. It would also lower the cleansing/sudsing ability somewhat. If “conditioning” is a priority, though, then neither of those things is necessarily that bad.
Nar
Thank you! Thank you! You are so amazing! I really appreciate the time you put into answering all my questions, especially in English (sorry, I had fo forgotten that you need to translate).
I really do appreciate your assistance. You are a beautiful human,
Thanks again!
Tracy Ariza, DDS
Thanks, Nar!
Nat
Tracy,
Finally was able to use slow cooker method. I used the last formula with just olive oil and coconut oil. I didn’t think I’d have enough glycerine (I used my flatmate’s glycerine for his vape, as mine hadn’t arrived yet) but I had to use less coconut oil as I ran out, so I ran it through a lye calculator and adjusted as necessary.
Wotked really well but for nutrients next time I will mix up ratios a bit. Wondering if I could replace water with hydrosols?
I assume you (from reading comments) would be more likely to add during watering down stage? But, say I wanted the base to always contain aloe could I add it at beginning to my koh? Could I add milk to the lye as well? Like Could I make a smaller batch and use milk instead of water?
Tracy Ariza, DDS
Hi Nat,
Happy to hear it worked!
Yes, you could theoretically use hydrosols and aloe, and even milk when making the soap. Keep in mind, though, that some things will react with the lye and turn brown. They may even burn. I always mix my lye with water (or freeze problematic ingredients like milk) for my lye solution.
Yes, you’re right. I’d choose to add my hydrosols in the dilution phase, but I don’t see why you couldn’t add them to the base.
I’ve never actually tried using aloe or milk with KOH for a liquid soap- only for NaOH. So, I don’t really know what the final outcome would actually be.
I will say that I don’t like adding milk to liquid soap because it can make the soap more prone to microbial growth. Maybe adding it in the base recipe would help prevent that. Again, though, I have no idea what would actually happen as I’ve never tried it!
If you do give it a shot, I’d be curious to hear what happens!
Nat
Thanks for the fast response (again! Just proving you are a sweetheart ).
I’m more likely to try aloe, as even in CP I’m not a fan of milk. If I try it, I will let you know.
I had left a bit of soap paste in slow cooker with some distilled water overnight and I’ve just finished pouring the dissolved soap into a jar. It looks beautiful and smells the same as the $20 per litre Dr bronners brand, I used to buy.
Tracy Ariza, DDS
Yay!
Yes, I find that making liquid soap is one of the most gratifying things to make yourself. Once you get the hang of it, it’s pretty easy to make, and saves a lot of money! (More than making your own bar soaps, generally.)
NEWTON PASSOS
Hi Tracy Greetings!
My name is Newton and I enjoy your DIY products. Some I have prepared myself successfully. My question is concerning the liquid soap. I prepared the 70% olive oil and 30% coco oil and it is wonderful. I just wanted to know how much time would the diluted soap have without preservative? And the gel without dilution? and last, may I use the citric acid as a preservative instead of the ones you recommend in your guide? My liquid soap has a PH between 7 and 8 and if I use the citric acid I am worried it could turn into an acid soap. Thank you and be happy. Newton
Tracy Ariza, DDS
Hi Newton,
I’m happy to hear that the soap turned out well for you. I have kept the undiluted paste for years at a time without issues. I did have a case where one of the soap pastes started to smell a bit rancid. It still worked well, and I finished it up using it for general cleaning around the house, using essential oils to add fragrance. I only dilute what I think we can use up with in a couple of months.
I’m not sure why your soap pH is that low, though. Soap shouldn’t have a pH that low, and actually is self-preserving because of its high pH. You definitely don’t want to try lowering it further or the soap will fall apart. (It really doesn’t make sense that it is at 7 right now.)
I have more information about all of this is my post about neutralizing liquid soap, my soap about why pH is important, and my guide to natural preservatives.